Humpin' around

[Lisa]

Just wondering, for owners of Frenchies of the "Male persuiat what age didJust wondering, for owners of Frenchies of the "Male persuasion, at what age did your little guys start um … “humpin’ around” ….

It seems that Lamont is quite fond of my arm and or leg.

No, not other dogs or inanimate objects like the pillow or his Curious George doll. Just Mummy. :rolleyes:

He’s 4 1/2 months old … thought he might at least wait until 6 months.

Anyway – Neutering isn’t too far off and it’s not too major yet. Our English humped too – even after he was neutered.

Just curious about other owners.
Also, I know a lot of females hump too – so you’re welcome to chime in …..

[Lisa]

sorry about the typos in the above post.
My computer "coughed" ... :mad: :mad:

what I meant to say was .......................

Just wondering, for owners of Frenchies of the "Male persuasion, at what age did your little guys start um … “humpin’ around” ….

It seems that Lamont is quite fond of my arm and or leg.

No, not other dogs or inanimate objects like the pillow or his Curious George doll. Just Mummy.

He’s 4 1/2 months old … thought he might at least wait until 6 months.

Anyway – Neutering isn’t too far off and it’s not too major yet. Our English humped too – even after he was neutered.

Just curious about other owners.
Also, I know a lot of females hump too – so you’re welcome to chime in …..

[Bridget]

Pepe is nearly 6 months and he hasn't done it yet.

[My2Frenchies]

Just curious about other owners.
Also, I know a lot of females hump too – so you’re welcome to chime in …..

My female humps my male sometimes. :eek: I assume she does it to remind him she's boss (not that he needs reminding :rolleyes: ). I usually do what Judy suggested, distract her, and she stops. I hope this will eventually stop...she's almost three!!!

[Carolyn]

When Ferris was a pup he tried humping Abby just once. She slammed him to the ground and he has never humped again. :D

[Pattie]

Madison was an intact adult male when we got him. He humped only 2 things, his soft sided bed or my leg when I was knelling down. We got him fixed & he still does the same thing. I am sure in his case it is a dominance issue. It is none the less annoying. But at least he doesn't do it to company. :o

[Hudson]

When Ferris was a pup he tried humping Abby just once. She slammed him to the ground and he has never humped again. :D


LOL That is too funny

[Hudson]

Madison was an intact adult male when we got him. He humped only 2 things, his soft sided bed or my leg when I was knelling down. We got him fixed & he still does the same thing. I am sure in his case it is a dominance issue. It is none the less annoying. But at least he doesn't do it to company. :o


I don't think it is a dominance thing. We have had two different vets tell us 16 years apart that once a dog begins a sexually oriented behavior, like marking or humping, that they will continue it whether they are neutered or not. Our first dog, a mixed breed, marked before and after being spayed (what he tried to hump is a whole other story). Our Golden, never tried marking (he would have fallen over anyway).

Tank humped my arm at 4 months and that was the day we decided we needed to make the call. He only did it once, but we decided we need to 'nip' that behavior in the bug.

[franp]

Definitely dominance..Dari humps Curtis boxer...her 80 pound boxer friend..And ANY dog that comes into our house....

Heaven help the dog that even THINKS of humping her.....

fran

[J20]

Monty is nearly 9 months now and on occasion humps his teddy then gets fed up after a couple of minutes. I catch him may be once a month but he has never taken a fancy to other items or other dogs. He is in tack, but i remember when we went to view him as a 12 week old pup, he did this to the teddy while we were chatting :eek:

I don't think there is an age, they either do or they don't!
To hump or not to hump that is the question :lol:

P.S
I heard of a lady with a simular problem and she would shoot her dog with a water gun when ever he started :lol:

[Lisa]

When Ferris was a pup he tried humping Abby just once. She slammed him to the ground and he has never humped again. :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: Silly men! Thinking they can outwit the ladies!

[Lisa]

Definitely dominance..Dari humps Curtis boxer...her 80 pound boxer friend..And ANY dog that comes into our house....

Heaven help the dog that even THINKS of humping her.....

fran


Dari mounting an 80lb. Boxer!
The visions I'm having right now! :lol: :lol:

[Lisa]

Monty is nearly 9 months now and on occasion humps his teddy then gets fed up after a couple of minutes. I catch him may be once a month but he has never taken a fancy to other items or other dogs. He is in tack, but i remember when we went to view him as a 12 week old pup, he did this to the teddy while we were chatting :eek:

I don't think there is an age, they either do or they don't!
To hump or not to hump that is the question :lol:

P.S
I heard of a lady with a simular problem and she would shoot her dog with a water gun when ever he started :lol:


My female Rottie, my English bulldog and now Lamont – ALL humpers - so I’ve dealt with this behavioural issue before. And for sure, in this case, It’s pure dominance – hands down.

I must say however that I was pretty shocked that Lamont started so young!!! :eek:
Suppose I shouldn’t be, he’s the most “WILFULL” pup I’ve ever owned …(errr….sorry, “been owned by” …. :rolleyes: )

J20 – Humping at 12 weeks! WOW.
Good luck with that! :lol:

Lisa

[wendykei]

Wow. This is timely.... I just posted this on another thread re: neutering, but Sidney just started humping last night!!! And he is one week shy of 4 months old....... Is that just bizarre?

You'd think if he was mature enough to start humping, he'd be mature enough to be potty trained too. :(

[gmacleod]

Well, humping doesn't have a lot to do with maturity ;) It doesn't have a lot to do with sexuality either. With the sole exception of during mating, humping is a dominance behaviour.

Puppies that hump aren't actually being "dominant" either. They're just plain practising. And the females do it just as much, if not more than males do. Humping other dogs is something that puppies and adolescents, in particular, do. The vast majority of them outgrow it - or put more correctly, they learn more subtle and sophisticated ways of communicating. Humping is a very overt and gauche way of communicating dominance - which is why you see young puppies practising for all they're worth on teddy or your leg, and adolescents trying to hump every dog in sight at the dog park ;) Lots of socialisation with reasonably dominant older dogs will usually put things right on the dog park front (because they won't tolerate it, and will let the pup know nicely but firmly). And not allowing it on your, or anyone else's leg will get things sorted from the people point of view :)

[wendykei]

thanks gwyneth. i always thought that humping was part of the maturation process--that they do it as they got older.

so is it true then that neutering will help resolve this issue?? i think i've seen this on another thread, so will check...

[wendykei]

never mind my previous question--found the threat i was looking for. :)

[Lisa]

Gwen … I mentioned that, in my case, I felt Lamont was probably humping as an assertion of dominance. I could be right – maybe wrong, but I do also believe that dogs do hump for other reasons.

One of my friends has a (female) golden – a therapy dog.
When she would get anxiety ridden or impatient she would hump her owner. (Only her owner) This started at about age 2 and continues to this day. All the training in the world hasn’t curbed this behaviour.

Our former Rottie (female) used to do this as well when she was fearful. Didn’t happen too often, maybe 2-3 times a year. She too did it from puppyhood and, until the day she died.

Wondering if you have any anti-humping tips. What I’ve done in the past is re-direct and/or a firm NO. If that doesn’t work – playtime is over and no more access to Mummy (or anyone for that matter) until the “cool out” period has finished. Both of these tactics worked quite well with our English however Lamont is currently indifferent to the whole process thusfar. Being a baby, I’m not surprised.

Would be interesting to hear of any ideas from your side of the pond.
Thanks!
Lisa

[gmacleod]

I don't think I've ever heard of humping as a fear or anxiety response before.

Rather than thinking of it as an assertion of "dominance" though, I think it's wiser to think of it as a means of establishing heirarchy (the concept of dominance gets so misconstrued). And that's something that dogs do on a fairly constant basis, just because it's the structure of their world. The dog that's incredibly excited when it's owner returns home isn't just excited because a pack member has returned - it's reaffirming social hierarchy. Makes sense if you look at it from an evolutionary pack mentality - pack members returning would be returning from a hunt. And the nature of hunts is that not everyone necessarily returns. So there's a very real chance that social hierarchy may have changed as a result of the absence - and dogs do check. *That* is why it is often recommended that you ignore overly excited dogs for a few minutes when you first get home. It reaffirms that you are still the leader ;)

Anyway - if you look at it from that sort of position, it's not necessarily so strange that an anxious dog might hump. But the point of it will still be related to social hierarchy/structure (which would be one reason the owner is the prime target). Those are dogs that might benefit from a few calming signals before things ever get to that point ;) Here's a short article on that, if it's at all interesting: http://diamondsintheruff.com/calmingsignals.html


PS: Gwen is not a shortened form of Gwyneth ;) Not pronounced that way.

[My2Frenchies]

And the females do it just as much, if not more than males do. Humping other dogs is something that puppies and adolescents, in particular, do.

I'm relieved to hear that Allie is not the only female humper. What age range is considered adolescence in dogs?

[gmacleod]

Varies. Mostly the 9-16 month period. But like people, some start it early (6 months or so) and some finish late (up to 2 years). How long it goes on varies too, as does the extent of the obnoxiousness. LOL - it really is just like people. Some don't change much at all, others become delinquent and pushy to the point of semi-aggressive. Same with dogs ;)

[J20]

My female Rottie, my English bulldog and now Lamont – ALL humpers - so I’ve dealt with this behavioural issue before. And for sure, in this case, It’s pure dominance – hands down.

I must say however that I was pretty shocked that Lamont started so young!!! :eek:
Suppose I shouldn’t be, he’s the most “WILFULL” pup I’ve ever owned …(errr….sorry, “been owned by” …. :rolleyes: )

J20 – Humping at 12 weeks! WOW.
Good luck with that! :lol:

Lisa
Glad to say he only does it about once a month now, but it was a bit of an eye opener. The breeder was alittle embarrassed to say the least :eek:

[ginaldo]

Well on his 14 week birthday Aldo decided to hump my friend who came to stay for the weekend. :eek: He only chose her and did it for two days a few times....he is so young...my baby is maturing :lol: . So are we to say no and distract him? Is that it?? Also, just to add, when we went to see the vet, she wasnt really into neutering male dogs unless they showed signs of aggression...she doesnt think its necessary...but he is already dominant...any ideas?????

My little humper....how funny that this thread came up 3 days before....we better get this behavior controlled before my mother in law comes next week :lol: .

[Borgan]

Roosje, that's hilarious! The way you write is so matter-of-factly, but such a humorous topic :)

[franp]

Yes, Roosje, "Tick" is the right word.

You know when we go to visit Curtis Boxer, Dari's most favorite friend, and he has decided play time is over he turns his back.. Picks up a bone and chews.. That is when she humps him..

Much like Mo who is doing it out of boredom..Your description just hit me..Dari is annoyed with Curtis, she WANTS to play and he does not.. So she humps him...He just continues to chew on his toy....

That is just such a great insight...Once again. :D thank you.

fran